ChosenHero wrote:Montymoo wrote:ChosenHero wrote:Montymoo wrote:Honestly, I invite anyone, for or against the Inghams, to come here and discuss rationally the reasons why they are for either side.
But will anyone? I’m guessing not. Just a continuation of the passive aggressive twitter comments to get their attention.
Your only flavour of he month for so long with that family, then they will drop you like a bag of flaming turds. Look at prinny, she’s a great example. Bought for views, dropped when their new ideas to get views meant she got in the way.
Ok if you’re actually up for a discussion and we can argue both sides, in a mature way where people listen I’m all for that
I'm completely up for the discussion in a mature manner. I think everyone here, a part from two who no longer come here, listen pretty well.
So I open the floor to you first. What attracts you to the Ingham's? What puts you off?
When I first started watching them, I loved this little family unit that just had fun together, then very quickly it devolved into this excessive spending, click bait, manipulation circus act and I finally snapped when they went back to the old house and it was just filled with crap. Almost like there was a nuclear melt down and they had to leave.
And then I started to see the nasty side to the family and the greed. The surprise reactions are as fake as can be, I honestly believe people must be lying to themselves to say they are not.
I do not believe they have any respect for their following, and see them as nothing but cash cows.
Ok so here goes
I started watching the them just after Christmas when Esmè got Avia (which was totally adorable)
I know some don’t agree but I loved the relationship between Chris and Isabelle because growing up I didn’t have my dad for 6 years and then a step dad came along and saved me and loved me like he was my real dad and all the years I had wished for a dad (corny but bare with me) came true and they reminded me if being younger and even today as an adult that man is my world,my dad who walked be down the isle and their relationship struck me and I don’t know why but it did.
I felt their bond
I know it’s all a little odd maybe to you guys but that’s me. I’m strange lol
I know Isabelle has a dad so it’s a little different but I honestly believe their relationship is just daddy/daughter and he loves her like he loves Esmè and Isla, it’s kind of hard to see people think it’s creepy because then I’m like, do people think my dad is strange for loving me?
I have a 10 year old daughter who is autistic and after we lost her best friend aka a dog who was her entire world she went into herself she was an actual shadow of her former self, we tried literally everything to help her but that girl was so lost unbelievably sad to see, lost all confidence and wouldn’t talk in school anymore BUT she watched their videos and something about their girls being so comfortable with themselves and being brave enough to speak in front of hundreds of thousands of people on camera made something click and she even says now she’s fully better that the girls helped her??
it makes me emotional and feel shitty as a mum as I wasn’t the one to make her better if that makes any sense at all??
it’s like in a round about way they gave me back my little girl.
To start off with, You are not a shitty mother, nor are you shitty as a mother. Do not ever say that to yourself.
I understand what you are saying about the relationship between Chris and Isabelle - I do not have a relationship with my father at all. I understand the feeling you get seeing a positive relationship between a stepfather and a daughter especially when that is something you to have been through. I don't think that makes you strange. My step father came into my life in my 20's, and while I don't have that connection with him like I assume you have with yours, I do trust him and value his opinion.
It's not strange for a step father to love a step child, but there are certain boundaries that come along with that, especially when the child in question does have an active biological parent.
What does bother me about the Chris/Isabelle relationship is this: 1) his complete lack of respect of her personal space and boundaries, e.g going into her room, filming her in bed etc 2) If he is seen as her 'father' and takes on those parental responsibilities along side Sarah, I am extremely concerned about how much they sexualise her, especially on Instagram. Inappropriate pictures, click bait youtube titles suggesting things that obviously have two very different meanings, etc etc. 3) the way he speaks to her sometimes. It all comes across extremely creepy.
I can understand how finding something that brings out your child against must have been a relief, I don't think anyone would ever bash you for that - but I ask you this with the best of intentions, is your child not getting the idea that the way the Inghams live is normal?
I have spoken previously about this in past threads, I come/came from a very wealthy family. But never in my life have I experienced such excess in terms of gifts, or clothes, or holidays. I am extremely concerned about how the 'lifestyle', if you can call it that, the inghams put out on youtube pretending that its their 'normal' life is going to impact children and their families. I strongly believe in my heart of hearts, the excessive nature of the family is done for youtube.
If your child turned to you tomorrow and asked, why do I not get 30 presents for my birthday? Would you be concerned? Because I believe the image they put out there will make children question why they do not receive the same, which could lead to questions like do my parents not love me that much? It could also could lead to parents feeling they have 'failed' their children.
And I suppose the other thing that concerns me about what you said is that a family on youtube made her fully better - lets say tomorrow the Inghams say We're done! no more youtube. What then? From the comments and social media interactions a lot of children have almost an addiction to this family that I do not believe is healthy. Akin to beatles mania. I do not see how this is healthy, for any child.
Something I and others have noticed, is how Chris and Sarah treat people like they are idiots. For example, Chris saying they don't use clickbait (which they do), or stating their audience is over the age of 20 (which the majority isn't), or the latest one them denying their viewing figures have dropped (which they have). It is almost like they think people are incapable of looking or even thinking for themselves. How do you feel about this? Do you recognize this?
Also, I really appreciate you coming here and actually discussing with us. I think you will find that the majority of us are extremely rational people, with real concerns.
but that’s cool whatever, I’m over that now.
Did you really think I was serious?. 
