I find it really interesting that the Butlers and their extended family have so many openly gay family members, but their church still shuns same-sex relationships. Both of Kayli's sisters are married or engaged to other women and Shay's cousin Kasey just got married to a woman.
To come "out" while being LDS must be the worst. The only Butler who seems OK with it is Kayli.
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I can't speak for the rest of them but I get the feeling that kaylies sister with the YouTube channel is probably not practicingspace_cadet wrote:I find it really interesting that the Butlers and their extended family have so many openly gay family members, but their church still shuns same-sex relationships. Both of Kayli's sisters are married or engaged to other women and Shay's cousin Kasey just got married to a woman.
To come "out" while being LDS must be the worst. The only Butler who seems OK with it is Kayli.
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Do you mean Markale? Because she is either married or engaged. Her partner's name is Jess, and they have a YT channel together. Does she have another sister with a channel?SwiftlyD wrote:I can't speak for the rest of them but I get the feeling that kaylies sister with the YouTube channel is probably not practicingspace_cadet wrote:I find it really interesting that the Butlers and their extended family have so many openly gay family members, but their church still shuns same-sex relationships. Both of Kayli's sisters are married or engaged to other women and Shay's cousin Kasey just got married to a woman.
To come "out" while being LDS must be the worst. The only Butler who seems OK with it is Kayli.
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Kayli's other sister Tasha(?) doesn't have a channel, but she's also married to a woman. They were together in the videos last Christmas.lmmomSD wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:03 pmDo you mean Markale? Because she is either married or engaged. Her partner's name is Jess, and they have a YT channel together. Does she have another sister with a channel?SwiftlyD wrote:I can't speak for the rest of them but I get the feeling that kaylies sister with the YouTube channel is probably not practicingspace_cadet wrote:I find it really interesting that the Butlers and their extended family have so many openly gay family members, but their church still shuns same-sex relationships. Both of Kayli's sisters are married or engaged to other women and Shay's cousin Kasey just got married to a woman.
To come "out" while being LDS must be the worst. The only Butler who seems OK with it is Kayli.
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Kale and Jess have said they no longer go to church, but they haven't removed themselves from the "roster" or whatever paperwork that means you are still technically Mormon.
I wish cousin Kasey would still put out videos. I know she recently got married. She made some interesting videos about being gay and Mormon.
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I know this isn’t casey or kayli’s thread but I would be so nosy and interested to learn about kayli’s family dynamics. from the few videos kale and jess have done on coming out, it was a really difficult experience for them, and their families were not on board. I never knew that the other sister, Tasha was also in a relationship with a woman. I know Kale and Jess don’t participate in the church so I wonder if Tasha does. Their younger brother went on a mission and came back a year or two ago. I also wouldn’t think Kayli’s parents are that religious considering they had Kayli as a teen pregnancy and have spoken of how people were not very kind to them based on that. And wasn’t Kayli also a teen/unmarried when she got pregnant with Brailee?space_cadet wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:29 pmKayli's other sister Tasha(?) doesn't have a channel, but she's also married to a woman. They were together in the videos last Christmas.lmmomSD wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:03 pmDo you mean Markale? Because she is either married or engaged. Her partner's name is Jess, and they have a YT channel together. Does she have another sister with a channel?SwiftlyD wrote:I can't speak for the rest of them but I get the feeling that kaylies sister with the YouTube channel is probably not practicingspace_cadet wrote:I find it really interesting that the Butlers and their extended family have so many openly gay family members, but their church still shuns same-sex relationships. Both of Kayli's sisters are married or engaged to other women and Shay's cousin Kasey just got married to a woman.
To come "out" while being LDS must be the worst. The only Butler who seems OK with it is Kayli.
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Kale and Jess have said they no longer go to church, but they haven't removed themselves from the "roster" or whatever paperwork that means you are still technically Mormon.
I wish cousin Kasey would still put out videos. I know she recently got married. She made some interesting videos about being gay and Mormon.
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^No Kayli had kids after marriage. In fact her plan was to wait a few years after she finished beauty school to start a family. That didn’t happen though.
I know this isn’t the Casey/Kayli thread but I just wanted to talk about their parenting style. Casey mentioned in last night’s vlog that he doesn’t want Braile’s boyfriend over their house. But yet he is failing to enforce the rules. They left Braile alone at the house with her boyfriend and the kids while Casey and Kayli had a date night. So she’s not allowed to have a boyfriend over but is not following her dad’s rule. That’s just a terrible way to raise a child. This is why grown ups refuse to respect authority because they were able to get away with breaking the rules.
I know this isn’t the Casey/Kayli thread but I just wanted to talk about their parenting style. Casey mentioned in last night’s vlog that he doesn’t want Braile’s boyfriend over their house. But yet he is failing to enforce the rules. They left Braile alone at the house with her boyfriend and the kids while Casey and Kayli had a date night. So she’s not allowed to have a boyfriend over but is not following her dad’s rule. That’s just a terrible way to raise a child. This is why grown ups refuse to respect authority because they were able to get away with breaking the rules.
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Re: Shay “most eligible Mormon father of 5 bachelor” Carl pt. 42
I interpreted this more in general, and not a specific 'hard rule'. Like he doesn't want her boyfriend there and doesn't want her to have a boyfriend at all, he wants her to just not be interested in that aspect of life yet. But she is growing up and if you put extreme limits on teenagers like 'you can never hang out with boys/girls' they will find a way, not tell and you will not know what is going on. I think Kayli/Braile have a very open relationship, and I commend her for that because so many ppl in her community just put blinders on and just say 'don't have sex' and call it a day. I remember her mentioning that she and Braile have talked about that she had sex before marriage. I wish we knew more about Avia and Colette's relationship. I just find it interesting the boundaries they put on their kids are so different. Like Braile is basically a regular teenage with how she dresses and her social life, except for her lack of social media. We don't know much about Avia since they don't vlog anymore, but in my opinion, Braili not having social media is probably better for her mental health.Rhea85 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:24 am^No Kayli had kids after marriage. In fact her plan was to wait a few years after she finished beauty school to start a family. That didn’t happen though.
I know this isn’t the Casey/Kayli thread but I just wanted to talk about their parenting style. Casey mentioned in last night’s vlog that he doesn’t want Braile’s boyfriend over their house. But yet he is failing to enforce the rules. They left Braile alone at the house with her boyfriend and the kids while Casey and Kayli had a date night. So she’s not allowed to have a boyfriend over but is not following her dad’s rule. That’s just a terrible way to raise a child. This is why grown ups refuse to respect authority because they were able to get away with breaking the rules.
Re: Shay “most eligible Mormon father of 5 bachelor” Carl pt. 42
brailee has tiktok though. didn't someone find her VSCO too?
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Not shocking at all. The dumb Butlers will continue to support the church.
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^^^^ The entire LDS church is a cult and racist and homophobic and just generally TERRIBLE. I'm not trying to be rude, I even have LDS relatives, but it's just bizarre anyone would be a member of that FAKE religion.
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Avia’s latest vlog shows shay and Colette together with all the kids in Utah
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I believe Colette's sister Callie has also either come out as bi or just strongly supports gay rights (which should be the norm but not with this family). I remember seeing her participate in the gay pride parade and I could have swore I say a picture has tagged with "bi" of herself. The photos all seem to be gone off her instagram tho
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Her footage is old though. Wasn’t it from a few months ago.PeonySugar wrote:Avia’s latest vlog shows shay and Colette together with all the kids in Utah
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It looks like Shay just met up with them at the mall, probably to spend some time with the kids. He wasn’t with the at the hotel or the pool. They are still parents to 5 kids under 18, they’re going to be seen together every now and then even while separated.
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Trolly needs her own thread! She’s going wild in the comments supporting her true love, Donald Trump!
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"Trolly"!
That killed me! Good one!
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Nope. The Christmas tree (and decor) was up in the mall.
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She does have her own. It's called TrollingWitchTard.
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Holy!!! What news is she getting that Trump can run two more times. DAMN, they are just beyond uneducated.
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Their obsession with him is beyond concerning. These are the type of people that will create a civil war if they remove that Cheeto puff out of office. Thank God the they live in Idaho surround by their likes.space_cadet wrote:Holy!!! What news is she getting that Trump can run two more times. DAMN, they are just beyond uneducated.